Dali card - Led driver

[wrang]

I have an old dali card and wonder now how i can se it it works with the led driver i can get.
When i start up the ghl computer it says
Dali 1.0
Firmwire 5.14

what should i look after so the dali card will work with a led dali driver like this Helvar

LC1x30-E-DA 1x30 W Dimmable DALI LED driver

http://www.helvar.com/sites/default/themes/helvar/images/flag-de.png

Datenblatt (DE) (http://www.helvar.com/sites/default/files/product_datasheets/LC1x30-E-DA_datasheet_DE.pdf)
http://www.helvar.com/sites/default/themes/helvar/images/flag-en.png
Datasheet (EN) (http://www.helvar.com/sites/default/files/product_datasheets/LC1x30-E-DA_data_EN.pdf)

[PIWAWT]

Yes, this driver works

[wrang]

Okey great to hear!
Now the build will start. :)

I want to get rid of my 2x8 watt t5 light in my Giesemann Reflexx Nanomh lamp and plan to out some led insted in that place but one thing i have to solder. The heat from the hqi lamp....


/Christian

[PIWAWT]

So you want to get rid of the 2x8 watt T5, and retain the HQI? Which light color have the T5 ? You need approximately 8 High Power LED 1W 350mA, better 12, and then only operate at 80%.

[wrang]

Yes that was my ide.
The t5 light is 20000kelvin.

My ide was atleast 3watt leds and different blue Nm and some aqtanic



/Christian

[PIWAWT]

You can 3W LED with 700mA use, but you should not mix the colors. Some 3W LED have 3.2Volt, or other 3.4Volt 3.3Volt. The adapter always returns the max. required voltage. The colors of individual LED will no longer be correct. Or they break due to high voltage. Per color 1 power supply would be the right thing, or 3W LED with 20000Kelvin ,like this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-3W-Cool-Cold-White-20000K-High-Power-Star-LED-light-Lamp-for-Aquarium-Tank-/221279174408). Do not forget to pay attention from the temperature

[wrang]

When i shearch at the dali meny it says connected 0 so it dosent fint the driver, Someone ho can ha a clue why it says so

[PIWAWT]

you have to search directly at the Profilux, did you do that?

[wrang]

Yes in the menu system - Dali etc

do the search thing and nothing found

[GHL Support]

Please have a look at the Profilux user manual / chapter DALI - here it is described in detail,
how the assignment of the electronical ballast works.

Have you wired the ballast correctly to the DALI-card?

[wrang]

Please have a look at the Profilux user manual / chapter DALI - here it is described in detail,
how the assignment of the electronical ballast works.

Have you wired the ballast correctly to the DALI-card?

Thanks for the help, I have read this chapter if dali card but now when you write as you do,
I get hesitant about this contact I bought works. I did not find anyone selling the contact you wrote in a previous post ...

[wrang]

Have you wired the ballast correctly to the DALI-card?


Does it matter its just 2 cabels...
Where is the + cabels att the dali card

What is the Numbers of 85 and can you explain what this is about in the dali settings




/Christian

[GHL Support]

You have a PM.

[wrang]

Fast service. The parcel came today friday with the new IC to the dali card .
unfortunately that was not resolved the problem of ghl card. It will not find dali point address.

I have searched the ghl computer after new address but it finds none. blank page,

5689

but when I plug in a t5 driver dali dimmable so you can find this driver. I can test if it's the same problem with another led driver
best regards

Christian

[GHL Support]

but when I plug in a t5 driver dali dimmable so you can find this driver.

Hello,
unfortunately I don't understand your post.
Does the DALI ballast work now or not? From your statement above I understand that it is recognized, so it should works now...?

[wrang]

Hello.
It works with the T5 light ballast and found a adress 1, but when i connect a led driver with dali it dosent find the adress and the led driver its just a blank view in the display as the picture.
When I connect and try it to the illunination channel the led ligt is on 100% and try to set it to 10% it still light for Max light.

But i will get a new led driver and test with it, it may be the driver witch is broken.

Its the same if i switch the cabel to the dali card


/Christian

[wrang]

Herre is some movie clip when i try to find the driver in the meny

http://youtu.be/8EyJVVs_AVA


/Christian

[Gunther]

Obviously the DALI card doesn´t recognize the LED driver due it´s another type of DALI device.
Light tube drivers for T5/T8 are type #1, LED drivers are type #6.-
I don´t know if this is checked by the card or not.

@PIWAWT: Is your statement from post #2 a general statement or have you tested this kind of devices?

[wrang]

Thanks Gunther.
So right the led driver dali is type 6. Hope Caroline/GHL can confirm that it will works with type 6 to


/Christian

[wrang]

Here is what i found about the type

Typical field devices
The DALI interface is described in the IEC 62386 standard. The areas of the standard correspond in each case to a connectable type of device:
– Part 201: Fluorescent lamps (device type 0)
– Part 202: Emergency lighting (device type 1)
– Part 206: Conversion of digital signals to DC voltage signals (device type 5)
– Part 207: LED modules (device type 6)

[PIWAWT]

@Gunther
it was a general statement

[Matthias]

the PLM-DALI doesn't care what device type is connected

the broadcasted commands are valid for all device types, no special commands for certain device types are used

[wrang]

the PLM-DALI doesn't care what device type is connected

the broadcasted commands are valid for all device types, no special commands for certain device types are used


Thanks for the input!!
Hope it will works with the new driver, i will be back if it works. 👍


/Christian

[PIWAWT]

I use this driver

http://www.maffei-gmbh.de/downloads/tci/db/TCI_MAXI_JOLLY_MAFFEI.pdf

[wrang]

I use this driver

http://www.maffei-gmbh.de/downloads/tci/db/TCI_MAXI_JOLLY_MAFFEI.pdf

Do you realy use this to DALI card?

[PIWAWT]

sorry, wrong manual, I use this (http://tci.ch/downloads/maxijollydali.pdf). It works with DALI and 1-10V

[wrang]

Now i have tried with a new driver.
It found the driver but after i have
New Numbering - Please wait - Found 1 ready
and after that
Assign illumination - Choose lamp - illumination assign <1> - OK - Please wait
The lamp switch off :confused:

if I draw out the dali cabel from the CARD the light switch on again


So one things is solved but the ligth still dosent light up.

Can some more help me if i doing wrong?


Here is some movie about it
http://youtu.be/XxpliDsnRgE

[wrang]

I tried again and now with number 0 in illumination assign and now it works :)


But can some one explain about the MIN Dimlevel DALI thing it says 85 but what happens if i change it to 0 or 200?