ProfiLux III Preview

[Matthias]

Now the first prototypes of ProfiLux III are up and running, here a photo from the inside of a ProfiLux Plus III eX:

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you can see on the photo:
- new front PCB
- in the front, left: Piggyback-PCB with PAB-Interface (ProfiLux Aquatic Bus)
- right, in Slot 0: Module with USB und LAN

ProfiLux Plux II and ProfiLux Plus II eX can be upgraded to a ProfiLux III-model with the ProfiLux III-Upgrade Kit:

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[APCP]

Looks good Matthias, i see there are only two expansion ports left inside, anny idee when it is avaliable?

Mit freundlichen gruss
Piet

[Matthias]

yes, we will show it end of September at the convention MACNA / USA

slots: no problem, you can connect expansion boxes with extra slots to the ProfiLux Aquatic Bus (PAB)

[marinfreak]

Awsome Matthias !!!

I cannot wait for it to be available. Do you need Some BETA Testers !!!!:D

I notice you have a RJ45 connection from the LAN/USB module what is this for ? when the signal usually goes via the ribbon cable in the Profilux II.

Are the two new RJ45 connections for the PAB profilux Bus.? ;)

[Matthias]

you examined the PCBs very closely!
the Ethernet signals are not transmitted through the ribbon cable (too high frequency), they are transmitted separately over a Patch cable from front to LAN/USB-module.

"Are the two new RJ45 connections for the PAB profilux Bus.? " - yes, 2 connectors in order to daisy-chain several bus devices

[Martin_S]

Can you post a sneak preview of the front display ?

[Matthias]

comes - as soon we printed someting sense-making on the display

[wrang]

Coolt. Will the display be in full colour

[wesheltonj]

Any idea when the pricing for the upgrade will be released?

[Coralleida]

Ummmmmmmm, it looks vey nice, I think I will have to manage a little travel to visit your cats :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Matthias]

This display will have the same dimensions like the ProfiLux II display and will also be blue/white. But now it is a graphical display, we can print icons, buttons, etc.

In my opinion it makes no sense to have a full color graphic display in front of the PIII, because:
- The main unit should still have a reasonable price
- The display area is too small for a color display
- We wanted to keep it compatible to the PII system for our existing customers

BUT:
There will be a full color display with touch screen available - ProfiLux View III !!!
This can be connected to the PAB, all settings can be done on the main unit itself or alternatively on View III.
With this design we keep the initial costs for a ProfiLux III system low, but if you want you can add a graphic color display with touch to the system (maybe later).

The main unit will work alone (without ProfiLux View III).

[wrang]

Do you have some new to tell us about Version 3?

[Blahenazo]

Hello,

I have a question in the german thread I found this :

product comparison between P2 / P3
ROM 128 kB / 1 MB
RAM 8k / >1 MB (jetzt FRAM + DRAM)
Takt 24 MHz / 100 MHz
Bus 16 Bit / 32 Bit

if you have a p2 and you buy an upgrade kit does it include the faster cpu / ram etc...
or is it only hardware support ( pab , etc... ) but the upgrade P2 will still be slower dan then a P3 ( non upgraded ? )

[GHL Support]

The upgrade kit does it include the frontpcb of the PL III also. (Wont work other way because the Grafikdisplay and the cpu/ram are on the same PCB. Just remove the PLII front, insert the new PL III front, mount the PAB Modul and the LAN/USB Module and you made a PLIII out of a PLII. (Not exactly that simple but thats it)

[Dejavu]

Is there any idea when it will be released?

[Matthias]

october 2009

[TheManicFishkeeper]

I have a quick question,

Im assuming the move to USB has a lot to do with the fact many new PC's and laptops no longer come standard with an RS232 port. I think this is a great idea, but how have you handled the problem of potential firmware update failures through the USB interface?

Can you still use the onboard serial interface for firmware recovery?

[GHL Support]

Yes you can.
The PCB on the back with the L-Ports, S-Ports, RS232 an so on will stay in place and will be functional like it is today in PLPII. Only one module will be permanent used by PLM-USB/Lan.

[Chew]

If it works the same way as the existing USB card too then it is no different to using a USB to serial (RS232) adaptor.

Obviously the network side of things is different.

[GHL Support]

The PLM-USB/Lan will come automatically with the upgrade Kit or will be build in on an new ProfiLux3. It is a essential part of PL3. The plastics on the backside of the PL3 will cover the first module and has only spaces for this PLM-USB/Lan. The electronic part of PLM-USB/Lan will be nearly the same like the PLM-USB but the Lan part is new.
Sure you can use your adapter also but you will get the USB direct on PL3.

[APCP]

Hi Matthias
Just a short question.

Will it allso be possible to use a cross wired lan cable on the PLPIII for comunication and firmware updates?

Greetings Piet

[Matthias]

Hi Piet,

yes

[Emperor Angel]

Hi Mattias

I know you say you've got enough Beta testers, but is anyone beta testing with the Aqua Illumination Lamps? I would gladly beta test the new III with these lamps (I currently have 6 AI Modules connected to my GHL).

Robbie
(UK Based Reefer)

[Matthias]

did you send us an email? if not - please do so

[Emperor Angel]

did you send us an email? if not - please do so

Sorry - Was trying to PM you directly, but obviously couldn't. Found the "Contact Us" page on the forum and sent an e-mail through.

Thanks

[Blahenazo]

Hello,

A question the module that connects via the pabs bus. Is it just a extra slot provider for profilux modules ?
or doest it have an embedded number of connectors (e.g. 2 L ports per pab module , because everybody seems to need them anyway :))

[Matthias]

The ProfiLux Expansion Box (this is the official name) will have sensor inputs, L-ports and 5 slots. Details are coming soon.

[Blahenazo]

Can't wait since I just ordered my profilux, and I'm gonna need an expansion box , since profilux and probes will be in the basement (with the sump )
And I want to put the the L ports (tunze and led ) , S port (float switch ) and dali and network interface and near de tank.

[Matthias]

the P3 will be the right choice for applications exactly like yours

[Blahenazo]

Will there be an 'upgrade' discount with the PEB , as like with the P3 ? Or an upgrade package of the P3 with an PEB together with it ?

I'm just wondering since I ordered a P2 and it need a P3 and a PEB anyway.

[Nory]

Hello

Have you news of the Profilux version III???
And if there will be available for french customers???

[Matthias]

news are coming soon

it will be available all over the world

[Fluo]

Will it be possible to use a powerline adapter to access the PIII over the network?
I can image that a lot of PIII users won't have an ethernet connection available at their tanks, so network using electrical outlets would be a solution.

[aqua_digital]

This sort of connection has proven to be quite unreliable, the last thing you want is the frustration of your profiLux going offline everytime you turn the coffee maker on. :confused:

The better option would be to install a wireless bridge and put the ProfiLux on network with your home wirelss router.

[Matthias]

both is possible: Ethernet over Power (EoP) or a wireless bridge

-> this is independant from the hardware, this also works already with PII

[Tukwut]

I have two questions regarding the P3 and/or P3 upgrade:

The function list states:

1) "Illumination control for dimmable (1-10V-interfaces or DALI) and non-dimmable lamps...".

Does this mean the P3 does NOT require the PLM-DALI expansion card?

2) "4x 1-10V-interfaces with additional shut-off signals, dimmable electronic ballasts can be turned completely powerless at 0%..."

Does this mean the P3 does NOT require the Profilux EVG-AP-2F Ballast Control Board?

Thanks!

[Matthias]

1 +2: no, same like before