Simu L: moonlight flashing

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Using 2 Simu L in L3,4 port via splitter

L3= sunlight
L4= moonlight
SL1= Simu L1 (1st Simu L)
SL2= Simu L2 (2nd Simu L)

Sunlight is working great in both Simu L.

If i manually dimm L3,4 both sunrise & moonlight works great in both Simu L.

If only 1 Simu L is conected to the splitter, is working great, no matter in which port of the spliter is connected or which Simu L is connected.

The problem is only in the moonlight when both Simu L are conected, the one is flashing & the other is not working:

If I plug the SL1 and then plug SL2 to the spliter, SL2 is not working & makes SL1 flashing.
If I plug the SL2 and then plug SL1 to the spliter, SL1 is not working & makes SL2 flashing.
(Doesn't matter in wich port of the spliter, the Simu L that is second conected will not work & will make the first flash).

I am using extension cable and splitter, not from Ghl, as theese were wet and needed to be changed. Also., I have change the jacks with new ones due to moister.

I have triple check the jacks ( it goes green, yellow, orrange, red, brown, black) but it seems that something I did wrong in the connections.

But if I did something wrong in the connections, will still both Simu work o.k. when manually dimmed? Or when only the one is connected to the splitter?

[Matthias]

so both Simu are working correctly if they are connected directly (only one) to L1L2?

there are the options left:
- the splitter or extension cable is not compatible or defective - use a genuine part from GHL
- the wet splitter damaged the L-port and the port is no more abel to drive to Simus at the same time

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Yesterday I notice that the flashing started at 00:00.
(Both worked drom 22:30 till 00:00 & then the one get off & the other started flashing).

Since all the problems till now with Profi 3ex are because a missuse by me, could you please check theese screenshots?

http://forum.aquariumcomputer.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1033


http://forum.aquariumcomputer.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1032

[Matthias]

I don't know what I can check here - even if a setting would be incorrect this would not cause a flashing
it seems illumination 4 = interface 4 = moon, right? then I assume you swapped the channels in the Simus

happens something else on 0:00 - maybe there is a dependence with another event? what does Illumination 3 ?

I still don't get the whole picture and I have no idea what's happening
- in manual mode both channels work correctly, even over a splitter?
- it is possible to operate both channels independently and 2 x 100%, 100% + 0% and 0% + 100% and 2 x 0% is working correctly?

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I don't know what I can check here - even if a setting would be incorrect this would not cause a flashing
it seems illumination 4 = interface 4 = moon, right? then I assume you swapped the channels in the Simus
Yes, I have. L4 gives blue Leds & L3 gives Red/orrange Leds.

happens something else on 0:00 - maybe there is a dependence with another event? what does Illumination 3 ?
Programm logic to start O3 at 00:00 (the other parameter is if RDX is less than 300mV).

I still don't get the whole picture and I have no idea what's happening
- in manual mode both channels work correctly, even over a splitter?
Yes, that's correct. Working great on manual mode even over a splitter.

- it is possible to operate both channels independently and 2 x 100%, 100% + 0% and 0% + 100% and 2 x 0% is working correctly?

I didn't understand the last one.

In the simulation screenshot, there is a Start & End time (Start 10:30 pm End 09:00 am) different than the L4 settings (Start 09:30 pm End 07:00 am).

Now I have change theese settings, make them the same.

[Matthias]

it is possible to operate both channels independently and 2 x 100%, 100% + 0% and 0% + 100% and 2 x 0% is working correctly?

the question was if all these combinations are working correctly when you change the brightness manually (light scenes or on the ProfiLux und er manual illumination)

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the question was if all these combinations are working correctly when you change the brightness manually (light scenes or on the ProfiLux und er manual illumination)

Yes, all combinations from PC working corectly (manually).

Nothing change with the new settings.
I am going to buy one of your spliters & try again.

[Matthias]

then I doubt that it is a problem with the splitter

is it possible that interferences from other devices trigger the flashes?

what kind of flashes are happening - are these the flashes you know from the thunderstorms? or is the Simu just switchin on/off all the time?

[almost]

then I doubt that it is a problem with the splitter

is it possible that interferences from other devices trigger the flashes?

what kind of flashes are happening - are these the flashes you know from the thunderstorms? or is the Simu just switchin on/off all the time?

It is like switching on/off all the time. Only in moonlight.
Yesterday the moonlight was steady for an hour or so, and then the one went out & the other start flashing.

Flashes from thundertorms works manually if in sunlight mode.

Just did a manual storm (both Sunlight & moonlight are off now) & worked great (blue & white leds from both Simu flashes).

[Matthias]

maybe we loose too much voltage over the extension cable

I think you should try our splitter without an extra extension and then we go from there

[almost]

I was also thinking for active L splitter.

The thing with the power it came to my mind before weeks, when in thunders the Simus weren't flashing simultaneously, was the one after the other. I like that, because it make the thunders more realistic. (Using your splitter)

Now the flash together in thunders (with another splitter).

But, if it was a lack of power, would they both work well in sunlight?

[Matthias]

if the flashes come synchronously or not is a matter of the programming - this information is stored in each Simu

power - the blue/white LEDs need more power than the red/orange

[almost]

Thanks for everything Matthias, will order on Weekend and will inform again when test it with yours splitter.

[almost]

I was also thinking for active L splitter.

The thing with the power it came to my mind before weeks, when in thunders the Simus weren't flashing simultaneously, was the one after the other. I like that, because it make the thunders more realistic. (Using your splitter)

Now the flash together in thunders (with another splitter).

But, if it was a lack of power, would they both work well in sunlight?


if the flashes come synchronously or not is a matter of the programming - this information is stored in each Simu

power - the blue/white LEDs need more power than the red/orange

Just after I ordered a simple splitter & an active splitter, in bold above is the answer.

I reprogram the Simus, one to react in flashes1 and the other to react in flashes2.
Now both works great in moonlight, sunlight and flashes.

If I program both Simus to react in all flashes, then I have the problem describe in above posts.

Thought that I can choose how they will react in flash, but it seems that if you are using 2 Simus then it is a MUST the one to react in flashes1 and the other to react in flashes2.

PS: Allthought this is the setting I want and I like (to react in different flash each Simu), when active splitter arrives, will check again if the moonlight starts flashing when both Simus reacts in all flashes.

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Well, I am coming back to this issue since tonight the one Simu started flashing again & the other went off (the symptom described in previous post).

I reprogram the Simu’s to react in different flashes, but nothing changed.

So, I thought that it has something to do with the cycle of the moon. That lead me to think that it has something to do with the min V (this is what is changing in moon cycles the min & max V together with duration).

So I remember Matthias, went to PC and set minV, 2V.

Now it is working great!

Once again, Matthias was absolutely right!!


P.S. The previous solution to this problem (program the Simu’s to react in different flashes) was by lack, since it happened together with the moon cycle change. It has to do with lack of power I am loosing in cables, now I am waiting for my active splitter to arrive. :)