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Matthias
01.05.2009, 11:57
Now our new led-controller "LEDControl1" is available.

It enables you to dim a LED-lamp with 700mA and max. 20V with a 1-10V-interface of the ProfiLux.

Plugs and sockets are compatible to TMC/Aquaray lamps.

Luisagos
01.05.2009, 15:59
Now our new led-controller "LEDControl1" is available.

It enables you to dim a LED-lamp with 700mA and max. 20V with a 1-10V-interface of the ProfiLux.

Plugs and sockets are compatible to TMC/Aquaray lamps.


You may want to rethink about the 700ma, most powerful LEDS are running at 1000ma, to be able to reach the proper PAR levels.

Other then that, great product, looking forward for it.

wrang
27.05.2009, 20:39
Will this unit (LEDControl1) connecterd to a L - port?
http://shop.aqua-it.de/bilder/produkte/gross/588_1.jpg
And how will it look like in the ProfiLux II, Firmware 4.06, English (http://www.aquariumcomputer.com/Forum/../Download/Manual_ProfiLuxII_V406.pdf) when you should program the unit.

Matthias
28.05.2009, 07:27
yes, is connected to L y

Programming: like all other dimmable lamps, there is no difference
First program the illumination run x
Then assign illumination x to L y

marco
30.05.2009, 11:01
I can buy from a friend ledtubes
can i controll them with the (ledcontrol1) Moving through the L1/L2 L3/L4

the data from the LED tube are

Replacement for fluorescent tube 150cm 58 watt
Number of LEDs: 420
Fitting size: G13
Lamp Size: L.1500mmx? 30mm
Consumption: 18 watts.
Voltage: 220 to 240 volts.
Degrees angle: 120?
Light color: warm white (3000 - 3500K)
Place in existing luminaire after removal USA and starter
Burn Times:? 50,000
Warranty: 2 years.


thanks for the reply

Matthias
30.05.2009, 13:42
no, you can't since the LED tube you mentioned is a replacement for a standard fluorescent and it must be operated with high voltage

LEDControl can control LED lamps with 700mA and 20V max.

marco
30.05.2009, 16:09
that's a bummer
is there any other way to control this kind of ledtube with the profilux?
For example with a led driver? and are there led tubes with 700mA and 20V max. ?

wrang
16.06.2009, 21:17
Is this a LED ballast or just the controll unit?

How many LED´s can you use if i have one called
Forward Voltage typ. 3.3V (max.3.9V)

(Cree XR-E 7090 R2, white, 242 Lumen (http://www.leds.de/p598/High_power_LEDs/Cree_LEDs/Cree_XR-E_7090_R2_white_242_Lumen.html))

Matthias
17.06.2009, 07:23
ballast or control unit? I would say both

20V : 3.9V => approx. 5 LEDs in a line

but the current is more importnt - your LEDs must draw a current of 700 mA

wrang
17.06.2009, 09:58
ballast or control unit? I would say both

20V : 3.9V => approx. 5 LEDs in a line

but the current is more importnt - your LEDs must draw a current of 700 mA

Okey thanks for the help.
The led can run from 350-750mA so it might work?

Matthias
18.06.2009, 11:12
if the LED can be operated with 700 mA - yes

jdrabek
20.06.2009, 04:30
Would this device work for tying into Profilux? I am wanting to build my own LED lighting system, but only if I can find a way to get Profilux to control it.

http://www.leddynamics.com/LuxDrive/datasheets/4016-QuadPuck.pdf

Matthias
21.06.2009, 09:19
no, ProfiLux has no DMX interface

jdrabek
22.06.2009, 23:15
Mathias,

I misread that LED driver. I thought it would handle both DMX and PC control.

I am looking into either the buck puck dimmable drivers or the meanwell 0-10 VDC drivers.

What would be the best way to hook-up the drivers to the Profilux controller. The AI LED system uses the serial port, so I am not sure what would be the best way.

Is there a way to hook directly to the Profilux from the LED drivers? Should I use the Profilux EVG-AP-2F Ballast Control Board? What about the new LED controler? I want the same control as the AI units have. Dimming, moon light, thunderstorms, etc., and be able to turn off completely.

On a side note does the AI LED system require both the serial port and a socket to turn off completely or is it done entirely through the serial port?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Luisagos
22.06.2009, 23:48
I am about to start a thread on RC on using the meanwell drivers with Profilux.

I plan on using the EVG-AP-2F boards for the whites, blues, and lunar LEDs.
I should have full AI functions using the 1-10v outs.
My LED system, that I am building is over 100 LEDs at 3 watts at 1000ma.

Going to be a fun project and demonstrating how powerful is the Profilux really are.

Antipodes
23.06.2009, 06:33
I am about to start a thread on RC on using the meanwell drivers with Profilux.

I plan on using the EVG-AP-2F boards for the whites, blues, and lunar LEDs.
I should have full AI functions using the 1-10v outs.
My LED system, that I am building is over 100 LEDs at 3 watts at 1000ma.

Going to be a fun project and demonstrating how powerful is the Profilux really are.

Great, will follow it with interest.:)

Any chance you can link the post from here when you start.

I have followed the nanoreef posts on DIY LED kit which they use the meanwell hardware.

Trying to find a source for the dimmable version of the meanwell driver here in NZ, but hard to come by!

Janos1
26.06.2009, 02:33
Hi .I have 48 Cree-xre led.working wery good with EVG-AP-2F boards.Dimming the unit,and turning off.

jdrabek
26.06.2009, 03:28
Hi .I have 48 Cree-xre led.working wery good with EVG-AP-2F boards.Dimming the unit,and turning off.

Can you share more about your set-up?

Some pictures would be great.

Janos1
26.06.2009, 19:19
Can you share more about your set-up?

Some pictures would be great.

Hi yes i could but tell me how to upload pics here.Talk to me as computer dummy.The set up is 8 line x6.have 8 driver (3021)from LED supply,all driver running only 400mil amp,because my tank is small,34 gal Solana.On the 3021 driver u have 2 potmeter to adjust the current and adjust the volt.So i turned back to minimum current,( 400mil).Cold drive that led wit 1000 miliamp,but i think that would be too much for my tank.Heatsink is 8.5x12 inch.Profilux control the hole unit,wit excellent result. In my case run Profilux only at 75% because when i run 100% bleach one corall.Now running with 75% all lux OK.

BoyScout
28.06.2009, 16:47
I am interested in controlling LED's too. I have an old T8 and a new T5 dimmable light. I would like to replace the non dimmable T8 with a dimmable LED-System controlled by the profilux which is not as expensive as the plug-and-play systems.

Would be very nice if you post explaining pictures or a connection diagramm.

Attaching Pictures should be quite easy. If you click reply here in the board you see the textbox where you can enter the message. Below that you find additional settings where you have a button where you can control the attachments. If you click the button a popup window with the uploading instructions will open... If it doesn't open it might be a popup blocker problem.

Markus

P.S.: Sorry for the bad english - i'm german :-)

Janos1
28.06.2009, 17:05
Hi i try to upload some pics,

Janos1
28.06.2009, 17:33
Hi i try again the pics.

AQUA-IT
28.06.2009, 18:02
Markus

P.S.: Sorry for the bad english - i'm german :-)

Es gibt ja auch einen deutschen Teil hier:rolleyes:

BoyScout
28.06.2009, 18:19
Hi Janos1,
thank you for the pictures. Hmm, it's not realy clear for me what you really did to get it working - but i think that's because i am a "dummy" in led lightening... Do you have something like a connection diagramm with complete module names (LED Types, electronic parts you needet etc)? How did you say: Talk to me as a led lightening dummy ;)

@Aqua-IT
Danke - hab ich schon gesehen... Aber einen Hinweis auf ne LED Selbstbaulösung die auch noch dimmbar ist und nur nen Bruchteil von den Fertiglösungen kostet hab ich dort noch nicht gesehen & Janos hat hier im englischen Teil geschrieben. Was tut man nicht alles, um das Bestmögliche aus seinem Profilux heraus zu bekommen? Du quält man sich auch freiwillig durch englische Threads durch :-)

Thank you / Danke,
Markus

Janos1
28.06.2009, 18:56
Hi i try to write something but my English is 2nd to non.To me hard to write anything in English. The LED are Cree-XRE Q5 The led driver are 3021 from Ledsuply.Dont have any diagram,everything i put together,from that website.All the conection are there.I used 48 led,8x6 line.6 line led need 6x3.5 volt=18v plus u need 2-3 volt for the driver.All is 21 volt so i used one 24 volt Laptop transformer.If u conct them in serial in theory they need 21 volt,but the milliamp go up to 6000=6AMP.That is why i used the 3021 driver,u can turned back the curent to 400 milliamp.So the 8 line (6ledX8line)is need 3.2AMP.Go to Ledsuply website and look for the led and the driver.Profilux is the best solution for me,because the EVG wat they have the easy solution to conect.

BoyScout
29.06.2009, 09:57
Hi Janos,
thank you for explaining your setup. I think i did get the idea and should be able to transfer it to my needs. For the german readers: i've opened another thread in the german section of this board: http://www.aquariumcomputer.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=505

i will use dimmable led power supplys / drivers (with 1-10V Interface) where i can connect up to 18 1W LED's. This power adapters should be controlled with the 1-10V Interface of the Profilux :-)
LED's: I will use 20-30 High Power LED's, Q2 and P4 - in addition with two 54W T5 fluorescent tubes. If the light is not enough, i may add additional LED's...

Markus

wrang
29.06.2009, 15:44
Hi i try to write something but my English is 2nd to non.To me hard to write anything in English. The LED are Cree-XRE Q5 The led driver are 3021 from Ledsuply.Dont have any diagram,everything i put together,from that website.All the conection are there.I used 48 led,8x6 line.6 line led need 6x3.5 volt=18v plus u need 2-3 volt for the driver.All is 21 volt so i used one 24 volt Laptop transformer.If u conct them in serial in theory they need 21 volt,but the milliamp go up to 6000=6AMP.That is why i used the 3021 driver,u can turned back the curent to 400 milliamp.So the 8 line (6ledX8line)is need 3.2AMP.Go to Ledsuply website and look for the led and the driver.Profilux is the best solution for me,because the EVG wat they have the easy solution to conect.

How mutch did this cost?
Have you some SPC/LPC corals and see if they feel good under the LED lights

Janos1
29.06.2009, 22:03
Hi yes i have SPS,LPS and they liked.They grow and the colour is nice.
Daniel you can not drive 18 led with one driver.Never conect paralell to LED,in paralell conection one led burn out it will blow the hole line.Always conect serial the LED.The hole ting cost me 550.00 but because the Canadian order.
US-Canada dollar exch,plus Canadian border tax,plus broker fee from Fedex,so not the chip thing,but look from another side,LED life span,10 years and Colour not shift.

Janos1
29.06.2009, 22:12
One more thing,very important everything Wat i learn from LED is come from the Nano Reef forum.Evil66 have a very extensive writ up from LED.All the light,driver and connection.He is the guru of the LED.

BoyScout
30.06.2009, 07:23
I hope that posting links to another board is okay.
Here is the Ultimate LED guide from Evilc66 at the nano-reef board:
http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=186982

Markus

aquaman
22.07.2009, 18:34
how many aqua rays can you controll of one unit or is a one for one thanks.

AQUA-IT
22.07.2009, 18:39
Hi,
one LEDControl for one TMC Aquaray or SunaECO (the name in germany)

dipan
02.12.2009, 18:37
I may have missed this somewhere, but is this effectively an LED driver? I noticed the DC input on the picture from the first page. Is the DC power supply provided with this unit? How would one go about connecting this to a DIY setup? Are the LED connection leads bare wire?

I was thinking about using a UV light strip from here (http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/index.cgi?action=DispPage&Page2Disp=%2Fspecs%2FWFLB96.htm) for a cool blacklight type effect to show off flourescence of the corals ...

It's a strip of waterproof LED's. Rated current is 640mA at 12V, which seems to fall within the capablilities of this GHL product.

boboxx
02.12.2009, 19:09
Look at the Propeller Control, it is 12v and is rated for 800mA

http://www.aquariumcomputer.com/System__E_/Products/Cooling_technics/cooling_technics.html

Matthias
02.12.2009, 19:15
but the PropellerControl is voltage controlled and not current controlled like the LED-Control1 (wow - 4 times "control" in one sentence)

-> you can use the LEDControl, this is a LED-driver. The voltage is max. 20V, but this is no problem for your 12V-LEDs, when you don't exceed the max. current of 640mA (just set the 1-10V-output of the ProfiLux a little lower than 10V) the voltage on the LEDs will settle at about 12V. There is a DC-connector, no open wires

dipan
02.12.2009, 20:13
but the PropellerControl is voltage controlled and not current controlled like the LED-Control1 (wow - 4 times "control" in one sentence)

-> you can use the LEDControl, this is a LED-driver. The voltage is max. 20V, but this is no problem for your 12V-LEDs, when you don't exceed the max. current of 640mA (just set the 1-10V-output of the ProfiLux a little lower than 10V) the voltage on the LEDs will settle at about 12V. There is a DC-connector, no open wires

Thanks Matthias...

Is a DC power supply provided with the LEDControl?

Matthias
02.12.2009, 20:35
no power supply included

dipan
02.12.2009, 23:03
Correct me if I'm wrong, then, but a regular AC/DC converter box style power supply should suffice? Something like the typical 20v notebook power supplies? My concern is the connector that must match the input on the LEDControl. Is there a universal voltage adapter that you could recommend?

Matthias
03.12.2009, 08:18
Correct me if I'm wrong, then, but a regular AC/DC converter box style power supply should suffice? Something like the typical 20v notebook power supplies?
right

My concern is the connector that must match the input on the LEDControl. Is there a universal voltage adapter that you could recommend? I have no recommendation

aqua_digital
04.12.2009, 01:04
I spoke to the NA TMC distributor today and to control both the blue and the white of the AQua Ray reef white you require 2 x LEDControl-1

Reason = 2 x inputs

boboxx
04.12.2009, 16:28
What about using this?

http://www.meanwell.com/search/ELN-60/default.htm

Janos1
07.12.2009, 21:08
What about using this?

http://www.meanwell.com/search/ELN-60/default.htm

Excellent driver,you could use 12 LED in serial,but don't forget when you order you need 60-48 D.D is the important,because this is how you control Analog input. (1-10v)

ReefEnabler
11.03.2010, 20:09
I spoke to the NA TMC distributor today and to control both the blue and the white of the AQua Ray reef white you require 2 x LEDControl-1

Reason = 2 x inputs



Ok what about the Aqua Beam 1000 ???? How can one of the LEDcontrol1 control this? It's running ~30 watts.... with 10 LEDs it must be at least 35v and from the images it only has 1 power plug, so how can you say this unit will drive that? Or does the Aqua Beam 1000 really have 2 channels requiring 2 LEdcontrol1 also?

Matthias
12.03.2010, 20:02
the LEDControl outputs only 20V @ 700mA max.
-> this is 14 W

ReefEnabler
12.03.2010, 20:04
Ummmm Exactly???? Thats why I asked you the question?????


If your LEDControl1 can only push 14 watts, how are you claiming it can drive the Aquabeam 1000, which is 30 watts????


The answer is either "it cannot" or "the aquabeam 1000 has 2 inputs".... we already knew 14 watts.

Matthias
13.03.2010, 09:15
how are you claiming it can drive the Aquabeam 1000, which is 30 watts????

??? I never claimed this.

The only thing we have to say about LEDControl1 is:
http://www.aquariumcomputer.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=301

just read the first post of this thread

since we are far away from the topic of this thread I think it is the best to close it now.