DALI expansion card

[Matthias]

Development is ready, production has been started.

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What is DALI?
The card PLM-DALI is able to control ballasts or other dimmable devices (e.g. transformers for halide lamps) with DALI. DALI is a digital bus interface, that means all devices are connected over just one twowire cable. The differentiation is achieved through different addresses.
Advantages over the 1-10V interface are mainly the much easier wiring and the complete shut-off at 0% (using a 1-10V-interface an external shut-off circuit is needed, e.g. EVG-AP).

Technical data
- Up to 50 devices can be connected to one PLM-DALI
- The devices can be divided into 16 groups, each group represents one ProfiLux illumination channel
- DALI-port is galvanically isolated

Price & availability
Recommended retail price (incl. tax) in Germany 59,90Euro, we start shipping at 14.04.2009

We will soon offer all our dimmable light bars with DALI as an option.

[02wrxgt30r]

will this support any dali ballast?

what are some of the available dali ballast

[Matthias]

any ballast which is conform to the DALI standard
Most ballast manufacturers offer them, e.g. Osram or Sylvania

[Gilles]

Will you sell the 80w T5 dali ballast from osram?

[aqua_digital]

For all North American clients Dali in in T5 HO is still only available in 54watt by ALL manufacturers :mad:

Suggestion - Do what i have done, install a 220V line :D

[Gilles]

Thank god i live in Netherlands ;)

[Matthias]

we will offer all dimmable 230V T5-ballasts from Osram with DALI option

[Gilles]

Can you PB me a price for 6x Osram QTI DALI 80w with product number 4050300870342 ?

[wrang]

Development is ready, production has been started.

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What is DALI?
The card PLM-DALI is able to control ballasts or other dimmable devices (e.g. transformers for halide lamps) with DALI. DALI is a digital bus interface, that means all devices are connected over just one twowire cable. The differentiation is achieved through different addresses.
Advantages over the 1-10V interface are mainly the much easier wiring and the complete shut-off at 0% (using a 1-10V-interface an external shut-off circuit is needed, e.g. EVG-AP).

Technical data
- Up to 50 devices can be connected to one PLM-DALI
- The devices can be divided into 16 groups, each group represents one ProfiLux illumination channel
- DALI-port is galvanically isolated

Price & availability
Recommended retail price (incl. tax) in Germany 59,90Euro, we start shipping at 14.04.2009

We will soon offer all our dimmable light bars with DALI as an option.

If i get one DALI card how do i connect to the EVG unit?
All cabels to the Dali unit or how do i do?
I plan to build a new dimmeble light with 10 T5 light (5x 2x39watt)

[GHL Support]

DALI has got 2 wires for controlling. (called DA and DB) Each EVG get the same 2 wires from the card. So maybe it is better to collect all EVG Datalines to a wire nut (DA and DB on seperate ones) inside your lamp and get out of the lamp with only 2 wires to the dali card. On this way you dont have such a mess with all the cables.
But, your way will work also.

[wrang]

DALI has got 2 wires for controlling. (called DA and DB) Each EVG get the same 2 wires from the card. So maybe it is better to collect all EVG Datalines to a wire nut (DA and DB on seperate ones) inside your lamp and get out of the lamp with only 2 wires to the dali card. On this way you dont have such a mess with all the cables.
But, your way will work also.

Okey. but how can it know witch EVG it should dimm if you connect 5 evg to the same DADB

[GHL Support]

Each Dali EVG will get an unique adress in a Dali bus system. This happends automatik.
There will be an manual that comes with the Dali Card that will explain how to connect and how it will work.

[Gilles]

Great! Any news when it will be available and do you have a price for the Osram EVG's?

[Matthias]

each ballast has a unique address - ProfiLux can assign an illumination channel to each address
-> just wire all ballasts in parallel - this is the main advantage of DALI

[wrang]

Each Dali EVG will get an unique adress in a Dali bus system. This happends automatik.
There will be an manual that comes with the Dali Card that will explain how to connect and how it will work.

Can i have a preview on the manual :)



-> just wire all ballasts in parallel - this is the main advantage of DALI

Okey then i know. Great new product.

[wrang]

Now i have ordered the Dali EVG´s.
When is the card at your shop or when are you sending it out to my lokal store
www.biotedmarin.se (http://www.biotedmarin.se)
:eek:

[Gilles]

Same question here. I am very anxious to start with the new stuff!

Can the profilux Plus II EX hold this?
- The dali expansion
- Wlan expansion
- Conductivity expansion

I think it can because i have 3 expansion slots.

[Matthias]

@wrang: shipment times - please ask your retailer directly

@gilles: simple answer - yes

[Gilles]

@wrang: shipment times - please ask your retailer directly
Matthias, can you post a message in this thread when the card is officially available to your distributors and what the part number will be? It was not yet on your website so i think it is still not ready.

[GHL Support]

Matthias, can you post a message in this thread when the card is officially available to your distributors and what the part number will be? It was not yet on your website so i think it is still not ready.

--> is planned to be available around middle of May 09

[wrang]

--> is planned to be available around middle of May 09

we start shipping at 14.04.2009
Is there a problem with the production. It was said that it was now April 14

[aqua_digital]

LOL :p

NO it just ties in when distributors next order, the card is available right now just up to the distributors to get into stock.

[wrang]

Is it just to plugin the card when it cames or is a new firmwire to ho have to be installed

[Matthias]

you need 4.06 with DALI-support

[02wrxgt30r]

when will 4.06 be available and will it have any other updates or just Dali support

[Matthias]

4.06 comes in this week

it will have DALI support and if there is some more time left we will add some other features

[atty]

Do osram make metal halide ballast suitable for the Dali feature? And would you know when the Dali feature makes it to Australia?
thanks

[Matthias]

DALI will be available in Australia - because DALI ballast are available in 24W ... 80W for 220V-240V.
DALI MH ballast - I don't know their plans - maybe you find some information on their website.

[Luisagos]

I found these and they run off 120v

http://www.sylvania.com/BusinessProducts/LightingForBusiness/Products/Systems/DimmingandDaliBallasts/

[GHL Support]

Yes, you are right, but there is only a 54 Watt T5 EVG with DALI that is good with aquatic lightbars. On all other typs there will be no fluorescent tube
for your tank or let me say nothing with a special collor of the fluorescent tube for aqaristic.

[Gilles]

What do you mean martin? I found 80w EVG from osram for T5 with Dali protocol in a German webshop. Are you telling me these are not good?

[Matthias]

to resolve the confusion:

1. Osram offers for all T5 wattages DALI-ballasts for 220-240v and we sell these Osram ballasts - no problems for customers with 220V-240V at home
2. Sylvania offers only 110V-DALI ballasts in 54W for T5 - problem for Northamerica

[wrang]

Help please.
I cant find my manual of the dali card so how should i connect the wires to the units
I have made a 5x 2x39watts lightbar now
Is it parallel like this?

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[Matthias]

yes, all control lines are parallel

[wrang]

Thanks GHl for the Dali option and card. It works great and nice to have the EVG dimmeble down to 1%

But one question. What should i set the option to Minimal dimlevel

Minimal dimlevel DALI – DALI-devices have a minimal physical dim position which is preset by the
manufacturer. To achieve an optimal dim cycle, you should set this value here according to the used
devices. According to the factory setting, 85 is set, this corresponds to the value of Osram DALIballasts.
You can set values between 0 and 254.What is the best value and what happens with the evg if i set it lover or higer value
I have Osram Dali EVG`S

[Matthias]

when using Osram DALI ballasts you need not to change the setting, the standard value 85 is OK

[wrang]

when using Osram DALI ballasts you need not to change the setting, the standard value 85 is OK

Back again.

Do you know what the value of 85 is. what happens if the value is lower like 10 instead of 85.

i wonder if i can set my 2x39watt T5 lower in light i think 1% is to mutch over my tank

[Matthias]

this is the physical limit of this ballast for the lowest brightness

if you change it you will not get a lower brightness, the result will be that 1% of ProfiLux will not correspond to the minimum power output of the ballast
-> not recommended to change

[wrang]

Okey thanks for the help!